Chapter 12 of Prabhup\u0101da Vijaya, 'Substance Over Form'. The intensity of \u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja\u2019s appreciation for \u015ar\u012bla Prabhup\u0101da may come as a surprise to those unfortunate souls who have been, or still are, subject to the institutional apar\u0101dha. The conception of \u2018substance over form\u2019 is quintessential to understanding our guru-varga and is worth paying attention to.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>
Who is a follower of \u015ar\u012bla Prabhup\u0101da and who is only a worshipper of his form? Are the worshippers of \u015ar\u012bla Prabhup\u0101da\u2019s form and his institution actually following \u015ar\u012bla Prabhup\u0101da or are they simply giving lip service to his name? The issue is an argument of substance over form (v\u0101\u1e47\u012b<\/em> versus vapu<\/em>).<\/p>\nThe following is a conversation between \u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Deva Gosv\u0101m\u012b Mah\u0101r\u0101ja and a leading devotee from Iskcon on March 6th, 1982, at \u015ar\u012b Caitanya S\u0101rasvata Ma\u1e6dha, Navadv\u012bpa-dh\u0101ma. In this conversation \u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja concludes that the lead\u00aders of Iskcon are simply taking the name of Prabhup\u0101da without entering into a substantial understanding of K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness. His concluding words are devastating:<\/p>\n
\u201cWhatever you say, that will be superficial to me \u2013 that won\u2019t reach to the depth of my knowledge and experience of K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness. Whatever you will see, what all of you will see, that won\u2019t reach the depth of my knowledge about Iskcon, that is, K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness. Who is K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a? You are all primary students. I think you so.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nNow, many years have passed, but unfortunately the position of our Guru Mah\u0101r\u0101ja\u2019s institution has gone from bad to worse \u2013 nothing has changed for the good. A new generation of dev\u00adotees is now taking the challenge to bring about change for the better, but they will meet with the same mentality (or worse) that the previous generation met with fifteen years ago \u2013 and all in the name of \u2018Prabhup\u0101da.\u2019<\/p>\n
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\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> So, you united yourselves and joined Swami Mah\u0101r\u0101ja what for?<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> For spreading K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> Yes, that is all-important, is it not? Sarva-dharm\u0101n parityajya m\u0101m eka\u1e41 \u015bara\u1e47a\u1e41 vraja<\/em> \u2013 not only non-religion, but all faiths of religion. We must forsake, abandon them only for K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness. K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness is so val\u00aduable and so accommodating. So, we shall take all risk for K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness. Sarva-dharm\u0101n parityajya<\/em>.<\/p>\nsva-dharme nidhana\u1e41 \u015breya\u1e25 para dharmo bhay\u0101vaha\u1e25<\/em><\/p>\n\u201cIt is better to die while performing one\u2019s own duties, for executing the duties of others is fraught with uncertainty.\u201d (G\u012bt\u0101<\/em> 3.35)<\/p>\nWhen I was young, I was a student of Bhagavad-g\u012bt\u0101<\/em>. When I used to come to this line, sva-dharme nidhana\u1e41 \u015breya\u1e25<\/em> \u2013 I felt discouragement. Where I am, my immediate duty, I must die for that, for discharge of duty. But whenever I would come to sar\u00adva-dharm\u0101n parityajya<\/em>, I got some strength of infinite character.<\/p>\nRisk everything for Him. So everything is laudable as long as it is in connection with K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness, for which Swami Mah\u0101\u00adr\u0101ja went there empty-handed.<\/p>\n
I do not know less than you about Swami Mah\u0101r\u0101ja. I knew him from before he joined the mission, until the last day of his life. He asked me from America, he wrote one letter \u2013 \u201cI don\u2019t feel well, I may die. Should I die here working for K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a con\u00adsciousness, or shall I go back to India?\u201d I told him, \u201cI feel that Prabhup\u0101da (Sarasvat\u012b \u1e6ch\u0101kura) has given you that land for prop\u00adaganda work. It is in my mind, so I shall say, \u2018You give your life up there, working.\u201d\u2019 And he took it up.<\/p>\n
I knew him best. When this Iskcon was first conceived perhaps twenty years ago, he began his actual life in preaching from a hired house in Calcutta. The Back To Godhead<\/em> was published, and my article was there, and at that time he thought of the name Iskcon. But you have sacrificed so much. We have got also some experience of sacrifice in our mission in the time of our Guru Mah\u0101r\u0101ja. And what for? That is all-important, and that is not a very cheap thing. K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness proper is not a very cheap thing.<\/p>\nany\u0101bhil\u0101\u1e63it\u0101-\u015b\u016bnya\u1e41 j\u00f1\u0101na karm\u0101dy-an\u0101v\u1e5btam<\/em>
\n\u0101nukulyena k\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47\u0101nu-\u015b\u012blana\u1e41 bhaktir uttam\u0101<\/em><\/p>\n\u201cThe highest form of bhakti<\/em> develops when one is devoid of all material desires, j\u00f1\u0101na<\/em> and karma<\/em>. One must constantly serve K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a favourably.\u201d (Bhakti-ras\u0101m\u1e5bta-sindhu<\/em> 1.1.11)<\/p>\nmukt\u0101n\u0101m api siddh\u0101n\u0101\u1e41 n\u0101r\u0101ya\u1e47a-parayana\u1e25<\/em>
\nsudurlabha\u1e25 pra\u015b\u0101nt\u0101tm\u0101 ko\u1e6di\u1e63v api mah\u0101-mune<\/em><\/p>\n\u201cO great sage, even amongst many millions that are liberated and have achieved perfection, one may be a devotee of Lord N\u0101r\u0101ya\u1e47a. Such devotees are fully peaceful and very rare.\u201d (Bh\u0101g<\/em>. 6.14.5)<\/p>\nWhat is K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness proper is all important. Only in human life is it possible to begin, and that is also very uncertain. So, once connected, one should try his best to attain, to work towards that goal as far as possible. The spirit of the thing should be kept, as much as it is possible, and then unity, and manage\u00adment, administration, everything is well and good.<\/p>\n
He came here at least five or six times after he began his preaching. Before that also, he came here numberless times; I also used to live by his side, next door. His laboratory was on the ground floor; I was on the first floor for a long time. Anyhow, when he began his translation of the Bhagavad-g\u012bt\u0101<\/em>, it was in con\u00adsultation with me in a very deep way. Anyhow, he requested me many a time that, \u201cPlease look after them; I am taking them this side. You have got some responsibility to look after them.\u201d In this way, my nature is to avoid; not very inviting, but still, he repeat\u00adedly came to me and requested me. In the first batch of devotees that he brought here to India, he kept here in my care. And it was I who suggested to purchase land where Iskcon is standing now. Anyhow, I was also friendly. Now also I am so. But things are being turned opposite. When I heard that many dissatisfied souls are going astray, away from Iskcon, and some of them I knew personally, then I felt some pain in my heart, \u201cSuch good souls are going away?\u201d<\/p>\nI gave some proposal to them that these persons should be accommodated, but they did not care to hear in the beginning. After a time, three important persons in the management were rudely treated. Then both the parties were aggrieved and came to me and I effected some compromise and they accepted and things went on well. Even so, I find now and then, some persons are going away, and those persons that are in power, their power is growing; the men and money are coming in their hands. It is generally a trial for the \u0101c\u0101rya<\/em>. I have got experience of at least fifty-five years, about the mission; so many split and I also tried to make a compromise and did a little something also. In this way, I am staying, passing my days.<\/p>\nI am of a little different character. I do not like any big com\u00adpany. Rather, I like more to read the \u015b\u0101stra<\/em> and to understand the meaning from it in different ways. I have written some poems in Sanskrit; some books also in Sanskrit and my mind is almost always busy to find out the real meaning to the \u015b\u0101strika<\/em> scrip\u00adtures \u2013 the mantram<\/em> or the s\u016btram<\/em> or anything. That is my nature generally. But when such things were occurring amongst some of them, some offended persons came to me and requested me to intervene in the matter, because Swami Mah\u0101r\u0101ja said many things about me within his mission to his disciples. So, some of them knew it and they asked me to intervene. Then when I gave some proposal, but they showed deaf ears. Then I asked them, \u201cTry to help in my name in a relieving way.\u201d<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> Who did you ask, and in which case?<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> Pradyumna came first with eighteen points of dissatisfaction. I reported it to Tam\u0101la-K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a Mah\u0101r\u0101ja. He was busy in his propaganda work. Then he told me, \u201cThings are going on very well. I can\u2019t go now. When I shall go during Gaura-P\u016br\u1e47im\u0101, I shall try to meet you.\u201d Then he came and went away, but did not care to meet with me. \u201cThings are going on very well.\u201d Then one devotee came \u2013 he was in charge of V\u1e5bnd\u0101vana gurukula<\/em> perhaps. I saw he was a good man, but I heard that he has become indifferent…an important man has become indifferent. Then next they came saying that, \u201cThree gurus, they are unfit and they should be discharged and punished.\u201d They came to punish three gurus who had direct appointment of Swami Mah\u0101r\u0101ja including Tam\u0101la-K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a Mah\u0101r\u0101ja also. Anyhow, I intervened, and some compromise was effected. In this way, so many came and I am hearing and I told, \u201cGo on with some relief work.\u201d<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> I am here, as you say, for unity. This is a unity effort only. \u201cUnited we stand, divided we fall.\u201d<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> I differ from you. Unity for what? Unity for a bad thing \u2013 that can create havoc.<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> Well, how can it be a bad thing? Iskcon is meant for K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> I say that the ideal is all-important, and next, unity. Administration is the position of the k\u1e63atriya<\/em>. And the \u0101c\u0101rya\u2019s<\/em> work \u2013 that is for the br\u0101hma\u1e47a<\/em> who does not care for this worldly achievement. That is for the br\u0101hma\u1e47as<\/em>, and admin\u00adistration is with the k\u1e63atriya<\/em>, finance with the vai\u015bya<\/em>. This should be the general conception. So, those with brahminical tempera\u00adment, they should be concerned about \u015b\u0101strika<\/em> knowledge; that is their lak\u1e63a\u1e47a<\/em> (symptom).<\/p>\n\u015b\u0101bde pare ca ni\u1e63\u1e47\u0101ta\u1e41<\/em><\/p>\n\u201cThe qualification of a spiritual master is that his faith is fixed in the Lord and the \u015b\u0101stra<\/em>.\u201d (Bh\u0101g<\/em>.11.3.21).<\/p>\ntad viddhi pra\u1e47ip\u0101tena paripra\u015bnena sevay\u0101<\/em>
\nupadek\u1e63yanti te j\u00f1\u0101na\u1e41 j\u00f1\u0101ninas tattva-dar\u015bina\u1e25<\/em><\/p>\n\u201cJust try to understand this knowledge by approaching a self-realised person who has seen the truth. Make submis\u00adsive inquiry and render service unto him. The tattva-dar\u015bi<\/em>, the seer of the truth, will instruct you and give you initia\u00adtion into this sacred path.\u201d (G\u012bt\u0101<\/em> 4.34)<\/p>\ntasm\u0101d guru\u1e41 prapadyeta jij\u00f1\u0101su\u1e25 \u015breya\u1e25 uttamam<\/em><\/p>\n\u201cOne should thus take shelter of a spiritual master and inquire about the highest goal of life.\u201d (Bh\u0101g<\/em>.11.3.21)<\/p>\ntad vij\u00f1\u0101n\u0101rtha\u1e41 sa gurum ev\u0101bhigacchet<\/em>
\nsamit-p\u0101\u1e47i\u1e25 \u015brotriya\u1e41 brahma-ni\u1e63\u1e6dham<\/em><\/p>\n\u201cIn order to learn the transcendental knowledge, one must submissively approach a spiritual master who is fixed in the Supreme Truth.\u201d (Mu\u1e47\u1e0daka Upani\u1e63ad<\/em> 1.2.12).<\/p>\n That should be the criterion of the \u0101c\u0101rya<\/em>. Not a man who can conduct good administration, make money and recruit more men. That is not the criterion of an \u0101c\u0101rya<\/em>. So, the dissatisfied, to help them, that was my advice to the discontented, and before this, there is one thing I should say \u2013 anyone who came to me and asked anything, they took it on tape, and that tape may be prop\u00adagated anywhere and everyone. Whoever comes, whatever I say, they take a tape of that. And they began to preach in their own way. In this way, I heard that Dh\u012bra-K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a Mah\u0101r\u0101ja took some tapes of me and has copied them and he is spreading it amongst the public. I was told that this was appreciated. Those that came to hear that tape, I am told that they had got some sympathy for me. In this way perhaps, some persons were attracted towards me through the tapes, and that is the cause of all this trouble. Those that can hear from me through the tapes, they are having some sympathy towards me, and they come to me seeking for help. I am here and I speak to those that are coming to hear from me, irre\u00adspective of anyone. In this way, the trouble has arisen here. Some are more attracted towards my tape. Have you heard?<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> Yes, I very much appreciate, I had heard with him also last year. Only thing, that their point is that by hearing your\u2026<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> Yes, I also like . . . all of us are proud, those that have faith in Mah\u0101prabhu, they cannot but be proud that Swami Mah\u0101r\u0101ja has done such wonderful work in his prop\u00adagation. It is inconceivable to so many. And that his position and prestige will be diminished \u2013 that will be almost death to us! We want that Gau\u1e0d\u012bya Vai\u1e63\u1e47avism should have a spacious field. But still, justice should be there.<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> Now, their point is that by hearing your tapes\u2026<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> I have heard their point. They say that whatever will be the majority of the committee (GBC) is absolute. I differ there. I consider that you are all students in the line of truth \u2013 so don\u2019t think that you are all perfect! You are students. So try to be accommodating, and strive to keep the standard.<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> One thing they say is that by hearing your tapes, the determination to serve in Iskcon should increase, but instead they are finding fault.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> One doctor (a Ph.D. in neurophysiology) was sent to me for initiation. He was sent by one of the zonal \u0101c\u0101ryas<\/em>, and perhaps he heard my tapes. Anyhow, he got some faith in me and I initiated him. I have written one book, Pra\u00adpanna-j\u012bvan\u0101m\u1e5bta<\/em>, a compilation from many sources, and I have also composed some poems in Sanskrit. That doctor said that, \u2018\u2018Your writings are helping Iskcon in an inestimable way \u2013 making Iskcon more deeply rooted, and it is also enlivening.\u201d That remark came to me and it is not impossible. Swami Mah\u0101r\u0101ja spread Mah\u0101prabhu\u2019s instructions very widely and what I collected in that book, many very selected passages from many higher devo\u00adtees, that can help the movement. In this way, my connection was to consolidate and make it deep-rooted. But unfortunately, things are going in such a way as if I am standing in the opposite party. But I don\u2019t think so. I think that my inclination, my advice and my friendship with Swami Mah\u0101r\u0101ja can help you a great deal on both sides \u2013 on the constitutional, as well as the spiritual ideal. This is my simple conviction. For my whole life, I had no ambi\u00adtion, and in my old age I am not such a fool that this time, at the cost of Iskcon, I will try to improve my position.<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> They have always had great reverence for you.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> Only when they did not differ with me.<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> The only thing that they are a little bitter about now is that some of the people who have some criticism against the movement have\u2026<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> Reverence formally. What sort of rever\u00adence do they have towards me? Formal or material? Substantial? Spiritual?<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> Well, I think that for your knowledge\u2026<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> No, no, their reverence for me is in a formal way, I think. At least now they have proved like that. They are more particular with form management, and they want formal help from me. But I am not a man who is concerned with form only. I like spirit more than form. Rather, I like to be a form-breaker than a form-maker, if it is necessary for spiritual upliftment.<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> That\u2019s pretty heavy.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> And it is there \u2013 sarva-dharm\u0101n parity\u00adajya<\/em>. What is that? What is the ideal and the highest goal?<\/p>\n\u0101s\u0101m aho cara\u1e47a-re\u1e47u-ju\u1e63\u0101m aha\u1e41 sy\u0101\u1e41<\/em>
\nv\u1e5bnd\u0101vane kim api gulma-latau\u1e63adh\u012bn\u0101m<\/em>
\ny\u0101 dustyaja\u1e41 sva-janam \u0101rya-patha\u1e41 ca hitv\u0101<\/em>
\nbhejur mukunda-padav\u012b\u1e41 \u015brutibhir vim\u1e5bgy\u0101m<\/em><\/p>\n\u201cO, let me become a bush, a creeper or a plant in \u015ar\u012b V\u1e5bnd\u0101\u00advana, so that I may attain the dust of the feet of the gop\u012bs<\/em>. They have given up those things that are most difficult to renounce such as the association of their family mem\u00adbers and the laws of society in order to take shelter of the lotus feet of Mukunda, which are searched for by the Vedas<\/em> themselves.\u201d (Bh\u0101g<\/em>.10.47.61)<\/p>\nAre you acquainted with this \u015bloka<\/em> of Bh\u0101gavatam<\/em> which is spoken by Uddhava about the gop\u012bs<\/em> of V\u1e5bnd\u0101vana, about their qualification? Are you acquainted with this \u015bloka<\/em> of \u015ar\u012bmad Bh\u0101gavatam<\/em>?<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> No. Kindly tell me.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> So you should have connection with the highest ideal in Gau\u1e0d\u012bya Vai\u1e63\u1e47avism. Where to go? What is our destination? For what have we come to Iskcon? Swami Mah\u0101r\u0101ja has given a general call to so many, crushing the pride of the present scientific civilisation. But what for? What is our highest aim? You must be conscious of that. For what have you come? You soldiers, you are arrayed to fight with m\u0101y\u0101<\/em>, but what for? What is your aim? What is the conception? There are so many conceptions \u2013 the Islamic conception, the Christian conception, the var\u1e47\u0101\u015brama<\/em> conception, the Buddhist conception, \u015aa\u1e45kara\u2019s conception \u2013 so many. But what is the K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness that Swami Mah\u0101r\u0101ja gave to you?<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> Our thinking is that we do not know K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a. We have no qualification to know K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a. But we know Prabhup\u0101da, therefore we want to serve him.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> What is your Prabhup\u0101da? There are so many spiritual masters in the world. What is the peculiarity of your Prabhup\u0101da?<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> He is putting us at the feet of K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> Then what is K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a? Did he not preach about Him? He preached about K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness. And what is that K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness?<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> Surrendering to Prabhup\u0101da means preaching K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness, and to practice K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> He captured your mind through preach\u00ading K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness.<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> And what do you find peculiar to K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness that you left your previous religious ideas and joined Swami Mah\u0101r\u0101ja? You took so much risk \u2013 what is that great K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness? You must know that.<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> Yes, yes, we know \u2013 whatever Prabhup\u0101da has taught us!<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> Not hazy \u2013 you are simply taking the name of Prabhup\u0101da!<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a is the Supreme Lord.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a is the Supreme Lord \u2013 that is a vague word. Someone else will say that Allah is the Supreme Lord, another will say that Jesus is the Supreme Lord\u2026<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> Well, He has His name, form, paraphernalia, pas\u00adtimes \u2013 they are non-different from K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a. <\/em><\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> You have to know what is the K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a conception. Back to Godhead \u2013 what is that Godhead?<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> We are being educated in our Iskcon society about that.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> That education is not a mere fashion. That is reality.<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> Our Guru Mah\u0101r\u0101ja \u2013 he was there guiding this mission for 13 years\u2026<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> I know your Guru Mah\u0101r\u0101ja more than you do. I knew him from the beginning to the last days of his life. So much so, that once he proposed to me to become the president of Iskcon. I refused. In his last days, he wanted me to live along with him in Iskcon, to have my constant association.<\/p>\nDevotee:<\/strong> If I say something representing their side (the GBC), you please do not mind it.<\/p>\n\u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja:<\/strong> Whatever you say that will be superfi\u00adcial to me. That won\u2019t reach to the depth of my knowledge and experience of K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness. Whatever you will see, what all of you will see, that won\u2019t reach the depth of my knowledge about Iskcon, what is K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a consciousness, who is K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a. I think you are all primary students.<\/p>\n*******<\/p>\n
As I mentioned in my opening statement, \u201cThe position of our Guru Mah\u0101r\u0101ja\u2019s mission has gone from bad to worse \u2013 nothing has changed for the good.\u201d Bad to worse means that previously they had only a slight necessity for adjustment in areas such as Vai\u1e63\u1e47ava behaviour and philosophy. Now, the philosophical misconceptions have increased a thousand fold. What to speak of Vai\u1e63\u1e47ava behaviour, vai\u1e63\u1e47ava-apar\u0101dha<\/em> has become their food and drink!<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Chapter 12 of Prabhup\u0101da Vijaya, ‘Substance Over Form’. The intensity of \u015ar\u012bla \u015ar\u012bdhara Mah\u0101r\u0101ja\u2019s appreciation for \u015ar\u012bla Prabhup\u0101da may come as a surprise to those unfortunate souls who have been, or still are, subject to the institutional apar\u0101dha. The conception of \u2018substance over form\u2019 is quintessential to understanding our guru-varga and is worth paying attention to.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":5580,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"content-type":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[207],"tags":[206,208],"krishna_talk_article":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rupanugabhajanashram.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5630"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rupanugabhajanashram.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rupanugabhajanashram.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rupanugabhajanashram.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rupanugabhajanashram.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5630"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.rupanugabhajanashram.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5630\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rupanugabhajanashram.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/5580"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rupanugabhajanashram.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5630"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rupanugabhajanashram.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5630"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rupanugabhajanashram.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5630"},{"taxonomy":"krishna_talk_article","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rupanugabhajanashram.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/krishna_talk_article?post=5630"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}